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Re: Boycott Pizza Hut . . .

Posted By: J242 (24.17.17.91)
Date: Monday, 21 April 2008, at 10:17 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Boycott Pizza Hut . . . (Traveller)

: Actually, we don't know if that is the case. He's been there 10 years, so
: it's possible it wasn't there when he started. The interesting thing is
: that this article doesn't mention any details about why he felt he had to
: pull his gun. There isn't anything that says the alleged robber pulled a
: weapon on him. One assumes that's the case, I"d just like the
: details.
Yeah, I hear that. That's also very true about the no weapons policy, who knows how long it's been in place but one would imagine that in changing a policy or adding one such as that, all drivers would be notified of it. Maybe not though and if that was the case, then Pizza Hut would have no right firing him as it didn't make it clear to the employee he couldn't carry a weapon but we don't know those details...
: They just wind up dead. I guess that's okay, uh, unless of course you are
: that delivery person.
That's rare and you know it. Someone jacking someone will take the cash, grub, car, whatever and usually flee or they are just going to go up, shoot the person and THEN take their stuff. Granted this is an assumption on my part however based on the stories I see in the Seattle crime beat, that is the overwhelming majority of cases. Pre-meditated killing or simply jacking and running. In the case of kill-first, the driver having a gun likely wouldn't help any as how is he to know he's about to get shot until he sees what's happening which, if the assailant is insistent, he'd never have time to do in the first place.
: Either one is easier than being dead, certainly for the surviving relatives
: of the delivery driver.
Yes, but you also make the assumption that all holdups and thefts result in murder and that simply is not the truth. If anything, pulling a gun out in defense is more likely to have the other person pull the trigger in reverse defense. But these are just broad generalities and every incident has it's own factors...

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Boycott Pizza Hut . . .
Intellect Inside (12.219.27.246) -- Saturday, 19 April 2008, at 4:53 p.m.
- Aren't their crappy pizzas reason enough? [nt] *NM*
  Spiff (24.143.160.2) -- Sunday, 20 April 2008, at 10:42 p.m.
  - Yeah, so now I have two reasons ... *NM*
    Intellect Inside (12.219.27.246) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 8:06 a.m.
- Re: Boycott Pizza Hut . . .
  J242 (24.17.17.91) -- Sunday, 20 April 2008, at 10:52 p.m.
  - Re: Boycott Pizza Hut . . .
    Traveller (24.237.212.208) -- Sunday, 20 April 2008, at 11:29 p.m.
    - Which article did you read? . . .
      Intellect Inside (12.219.27.246) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 7:54 a.m.
      - Re: Which article did you read? . . .
        Traveller (24.237.212.208) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 8:28 a.m.
    - Re: Boycott Pizza Hut . . .
      J242 (24.17.17.91) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 10:17 a.m.
      - Re: Boycott Pizza Hut . . .
        Traveller (24.237.212.208) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 12:20 p.m.
        
        Re: Boycott Pizza Hut . . .
        J242 (24.17.17.91) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 11:33 p.m.
  - You would have made a great Pharisee . . .
    Intellect Inside (12.219.27.246) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 8:05 a.m.
    - The company has a right to limit its liability as well
      Spiff (24.143.160.2) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 10:09 a.m.
    - Re: You would have made a great Pharisee . . .
      J242 (24.17.17.91) -- Monday, 21 April 2008, at 10:25 a.m.

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